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02/03/2022 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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*+ SB 156 PROHIBIT COVID-19 VACCINE DISCRIMINATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 142 SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE ELECTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 148 ALASKA COORDINATE SYSTEM OF 2022 TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
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        SB 156-PROHIBIT COVID-19 VACCINE DISCRIMINATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SHOWER announced  the consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 156                                                               
"An Act  relating to COVID-19  immunization rights;  and relating                                                               
to objection to the administration of a COVID-19 vaccine."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:33:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR LORA REINBOLD, Alaska  State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
sponsor  of SB  156 introduced  the legislation  speaking to  the                                                               
sponsor statement that read as follows:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB  156  ensures  that  a  state  agency  or  political                                                                    
     subdivision  of  the  state  may  not  adopt  or  issue                                                                    
     regulation, ordinance, or  similar policy that requires                                                                    
     an  individual to  be  vaccinated  against COVID-19  to                                                                    
     receive  public  benefit  that   is  available  to  the                                                                    
     public. Essentially,  SB 156 ensures the  public is not                                                                    
     discriminated   against  based   on  COVID-19   vaccine                                                                    
     status. In addition,  the bill seeks to  ensure a state                                                                    
     agency, an  employee of  the state  may not  require an                                                                    
     individual to  produce documentation of  their COVID-19                                                                    
     vaccination status  or immunity  passport to  travel to                                                                    
     or within  the state. An  individual may object  to the                                                                    
     administration   of  a   COVID-19   vaccine  based   on                                                                    
     religious,  medical,  or   other  grounds.  Parents  or                                                                    
     guardians may object to the  administration of a COVID-                                                                    
     19  vaccine  to the  minor  child  based on  religious,                                                                    
     medical, or other grounds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO referenced the section at  the top of page 2 and                                                               
asked if  a school district  would be prevented from  requiring a                                                               
child to be vaccinated to attend public school.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD said  that is  correct; vaccines  could not  be                                                               
mandated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER asked her to repeat the answer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD  restated that  students could not  be prevented                                                               
from  attending  school  based   on  their  COVID-19  vaccination                                                               
status.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER  asked if  the bill specifically  refers to  a state                                                               
agency, not a private business.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   REINBOLD   answered,   "You're  allowed   to   make   a                                                               
recommendation but you can't mandate it."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER said he would ask  the question again after the full                                                               
introduction.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLI   TOTH,  Staff,   Senator  Lora   Reinbold,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, stated  that resources are available                                                               
that speak  to the  need for  this legislation.  She specifically                                                               
mentioned  Children's Health  Defense and  Senator Ron  Johnson's                                                               
recent five hour listening session.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:40:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD presented  the  sectional analysis  for SB  156                                                               
that read as follows:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Section 1: AS 18.09 is amended adding a new section                                                                     
          Article 2A. COVID 19 Immunization Rights;                                                                             
          Discrimination.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Sec  18.09.250 Exercise  of rights  and access  to                                                                  
          benefits. A state  agency or political subdivision                                                                  
          may not  adopt or  issue a  regulation, ordinance,                                                                    
          order,   or  similar   policy  that   requires  an                                                                    
          individual  to be  vaccinated against  COVID-19 in                                                                    
          order  to  exercise  their   right  to  receive  a                                                                    
          benefit that is available to the public.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Sec  18.09.260 Personal  vaccine history.  A state                                                                  
          agency, an employee of the  state, or agent of the                                                                    
          state  may not  require an  individual to  produce                                                                    
          documentation   of   the   individual's   COVID-19                                                                    
          vaccination   status   or  a   COVID-19   immunity                                                                    
          passport  in order  to travel  to, or  within, the                                                                    
          state.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Sec.    18.09.270    Discrimination    based    on                                                                  
          vaccination status. It  is unlawful discrimination                                                                  
          for: a person or  a governmental entity to refuse,                                                                    
          withhold from  or deny an individual  any local or                                                                    
          state  services,  goods,  facilities,  advantages,                                                                    
          privileges, licensing,  educational opportunities,                                                                    
          health  care access,  or employment  opportunities                                                                    
          based  on  the individual's  COVID-19  vaccination                                                                    
          status or  whether the  individual has  a COVID-19                                                                    
          immunity   passport;   bar  an   individual   from                                                                    
          employment,  or  discriminate  against  individual                                                                    
          compensation  or term,  condition or  privilege of                                                                    
          employment;  a  public accommodation  to  exclude,                                                                    
          limit,  segregate, refuse  to  serve or  otherwise                                                                    
          discriminate based on  COVID-19 vaccination status                                                                    
          or  immunity  passport;   a  recommendation  by  a                                                                    
          person,  governmental   agency,  or   employer  to                                                                    
          receive  a   COVID-19  vaccine  is   not  unlawful                                                                    
          discrimination under this section.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
          Sec. 18.09.280 Objection  to the administration of                                                                  
          a COVID-19  vaccine. An  individual may  object to                                                                  
          the administration  of a COVID-19 vaccine  to that                                                                    
          individual based  on religious, medical,  or other                                                                    
          grounds.  A parent  or guardian  of a  minor child                                                                    
          may  object to  the administration  of a  COVID-19                                                                    
          vaccine  to the  minor child  based on  religious,                                                                    
          medical,  or  other  grounds.  A  person  may  not                                                                    
          require an individual  to provide justification or                                                                    
          documentation   to    support   the   individual's                                                                    
          decision to decline a  COVID-19 vaccine or decline                                                                    
          a COVID-19 vaccine for a minor child.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          SEC.  18.09.290.  Definition.   In  AS  18.09.250-                                                                  
          18.09.90, "COVID-19"  means the  novel coronavirus                                                                    
          disease caused by the severe acute respiratory                                                                        
          syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HOLLAND  commented on the variation  in requirements from                                                               
the federal  government, state government, and  private industry.                                                               
He observed  that the bill  limits the requirement for  a vaccine                                                               
passport,  but  it  does  not talk  about  requiring  a  negative                                                               
antigen  test.  He  asked,  "This   is  just  about  the  vaccine                                                               
passports, correct?"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD answered that is correct.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER commented on the  fine line between asking a private                                                               
business to do  something and trampling the rights  of a business                                                               
owner. At  the state level,  he questioned asking for  a COVID-19                                                               
vaccination  but   not  a  vaccine  for   flu,  tuberculosis,  or                                                               
hepatitis. "How far down the rabbit  hole do we go? ... When does                                                               
peoples'    personal,   private    health   information    become                                                               
everybody's'  business?"  He  asked  the  sponsor  if  a  private                                                               
business could  challenge the constitutionality of  a prohibition                                                               
against asking about vaccine status.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD said  the most  important  point is  individual                                                               
liberties and individual sovereignty.  She noted that the Supreme                                                               
Court  ruled  on  that  in the  Occupational  Safety  and  Health                                                               
Association (OSHA) case. [No citation  provided.] She offered her                                                               
belief that  the matter  regarding health  care workers  would be                                                               
appealed or a new case filed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER said  he was  curious  about the  possibility of  a                                                               
constitutional challenges  if a private  company is told  what it                                                               
can and cannot do.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD said  she would follow up with  more research on                                                               
that point. She  continued to say that the  constitution seeks to                                                               
"keep government in its lane"  and everything else is reserved to                                                               
the people and  state sovereignty. She said that is  why it is so                                                               
important to pass this legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER  said he would like  the Department of Law  to opine                                                               
on the  constitutional question  of what  a private  business can                                                               
and cannot do.  He said he did not disagree  with the precepts of                                                               
the  legislation   but  he  wanted  to   hear  additional  expert                                                               
testimony to flesh out the constitutional issues.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HOLLAND  directed attention  to the  sentence on  page 2,                                                               
lines 24-25 that begins, "A  person may not require an individual                                                               
..." and  the sentence  on page  1, lines  11-12 that  begins, "A                                                               
state agency, an employee of the  state, or an agent of the state                                                               
may not require an individual ...".  He asked if the text on page                                                               
2 should mirror the language on page 1.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD replied  the language on page 2,  lines 24-25 is                                                               
intentionally  generic.  Alaskans  want  to  be  free  to  choose                                                               
whether  or not  to get  the  vaccine. Returning  to the  Chair's                                                               
question about  private businesses,  she said an  employer should                                                               
not be  able to mandate the  vaccine unless they are  licensed to                                                               
practice medicine.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOLLAND said  his concern  centers  on restricting  non-                                                               
state entities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD  responded that  a child  having to  prove their                                                               
vaccination status  to sign up  for school  is an example  of why                                                               
this legislation is so important.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER  said  he  wants more  discussion  about  the  line                                                               
between telling a private business what  it can and cannot do and                                                               
a business asking an individual  about their private health data.                                                               
This  also speaks  to intent  and what  the legislation  wants to                                                               
guarantee in terms of protecting rights on all sides.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:58:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD mentioned new data  coming out and said she will                                                               
always opt  for individual liberties  and sovereignty  over one's                                                               
own body.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHOWER  stated his  desire  to  learn  about the  line  he                                                               
previously described. He  offered his belief that  better data on                                                               
the long term effect of the  vaccine is needed and his contention                                                               
that  businesses that  require  the vaccine  ultimately would  be                                                               
held liable for the damages to peoples' lives.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOLLAND  noted  that  the   language  on  page  2,  Sec.                                                               
18.09.270  talks about  it being  unlawful  discrimination for  a                                                               
person to  deny an individual a  service such as enrollment  in a                                                               
private  school.  He  expressed  interest in  hearing  the  legal                                                               
thoughts on this because his belief  is that it is much easier to                                                               
argue what  can be enforced  from the  state level as  opposed to                                                               
private business.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:04:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD   restated  her  support  for   and  belief  in                                                               
individual liberties.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER  restated his  desire to hear  from experts  and the                                                               
Department  of  Law and  relayed  his  concern about  how  Alaska                                                               
courts might fall.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD said  a few dozen cases have  come down strongly                                                               
on the  side of individual  liberties. She also commented  on the                                                               
possibility  of   long  term  side  effects   from  the  COVID-19                                                               
vaccines.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHOWER asked for a brief description of the fiscal note.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. TOTH stated that the fiscal note for SB 156 is zero.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:10:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SHOWER held SB 156 in committee.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB0156 BILL Immun Rights and Objections to C-19 Vax.PDF SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 Immunization Rights and objections to C-19 vax Sponsor Statement 1.30.22.pdf SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 Immunization Rights and Objection to COVID-19 Sectional 1.29.22.pdf SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB142 sponsor statement.pdf SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 142
SB142 Sectional Analysis.pdf SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 142
testimony support Kendall.pdf SSTA 2/3/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 156